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**dKiWi** · Jul 25th, 07 08:37 PM

http://bj0rn.animeblogger.net/download/2507HNR001.pdf

http://bj0rn.animeblogger.net/download/2507HNL002.pdf

Well, this proves the smart, mature ones appreciate anime, and the dumb, narrow-minded ones are stuck to their dramas and movies.

More evidence is of course from another animeblogger, who is arguably the most popular one now internationally, DarkMirage, a RJC student that has already attained JLPT 1. His blog is of course www.DarkMirage.com and one of his posts managed to hit 400 over comments.

I'm not saying I don't watch dramas and movies, but I always hold the view that it is inferior to the anime sub-culture (including manga, light novels and visual novels).

I encourage everyone to try and embrace my point of view and stop thinking that you are weaboo. I for one will never stay in Japan and I think the Japanese are quite crazy, but I believe this subculture is definitely superior. Its the truth, face it.

Anyway, the article is very badly written. ImpZ is clearly quite an Otaku (and quite lolicon) if you follow his blog enough. Shoddy journalism, but one step forward for Otaku-kind.

ImpZ's blog is http://that.animeblogger.net

**ref** · Jul 25th, 07 08:55 PM

did I hear someone say weeaboo? cause I did hear someone said Weeaboo

**Vectors** · Jul 25th, 07 10:24 PM

Mooeeeaaaa!!

**SDF-2** · Jul 26th, 07 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by dKiWi

http://bj0rn.animeblogger.net/download/2507HNR001.pdf

http://bj0rn.animeblogger.net/download/2507HNL002.pdf

Well, this proves the smart, mature ones appreciate anime, and the dumb, narrow-minded ones are stuck to their dramas and movies.

More evidence is of course from another animeblogger, who is arguably the most popular one now internationally, DarkMirage, a RJC student that has already attained JLPT 1. His blog is of course www.DarkMirage.com and one of his posts managed to hit 400 over comments.

I'm not saying I don't watch dramas and movies, but I always hold the view that it is inferior to the anime sub-culture (including manga, light novels and visual novels).

I encourage everyone to try and embrace my point of view and stop thinking that you are weaboo. I for one will never stay in Japan and I think the Japanese are quite crazy, but I believe this subculture is definitely superior. Its the truth, face it.

Anyway, the article is very badly written. ImpZ is clearly quite an Otaku (and quite lolicon) if you follow his blog enough. Shoddy journalism, but one step forward for Otaku-kind.

ImpZ's blog is http://that.animeblogger.net

That is the thing I fear. To think we are big and all other fans who adore other hobbies are inferior.

With that, such thinking will make us more inferior.

It will be best anime fans who can study, watch anime and can still help out the society is the best.

To proclaim such statements only give the public an impression that we are "narrow minded' people.

**Darkonlore** · Jul 26th, 07 02:57 AM

Lolx, I nvr had the honour of knowing Bj0rn although I'm in NTU too. Sad...

NTU has a lot of students watching anime really. At a NTU irc channel, it onced peaked at 200 2 years ago.

I also spent all my years at a particular block in a hostel, all the neighbours were also long time residents of the particular block and every wednesday they gathered in 1 guy's room to watch Naruto =D .... (before the tv timetable change).

A few times during hall events, due to most of my neighbours being members of the hall commitee, we also get naruto soundtracks being played in the events.... =D.... But the best part was 1 of my course mate who looked down on anime during year 1, turned into a faithful fan of naruto and event did a mini cosplay of kakashi in one of those hall events. Haha, i doubt he remembered that insulting remark he made to me so many years back about anime. =/

**sentinel011** · Jul 26th, 07 04:19 AM

Every culture/community involves many different people with different capabilities in terms of the ability to do well academically. Just that our culture is less mainstream and the bulk of the image goes to depicting true blue 'otaku' in Japan. From what I've observed, the scene in singapore doesn't have people attaining to such a level, so there's no need to shun anyone (yet) seriously. People fear the unknown, no? The point of this article's to point out that impz's involved in a less mainstream hobby, and he's just using his english comprehension skills and observation skills to write out the stuff he notes on the stuff he blogs. If, let's say, the shows he blogs about are mainstream stuff like movies; will the article even bother revealing that piece of information? I think not.

**sentinel011** · Jul 26th, 07 04:21 AM

@darkenlore:

I know both of them, but I know bjorn personally. 'sides, I'm on his blogroll too. Just that not many people know my blog anyway.

**tjhan** · Jul 26th, 07 04:25 AM

LOL!

Dkiwi I hate to burst your bubble but anime viewers are only above F4 and other boyband chasers in terms of intelligence. Almost every other hobby has smarter people in general. In fact, I really hate to admit I like anime. When people ask me in NUS, I always say, "Oh I like watching football and reading science magazines."

Anime is ****ing.. cartoons please.

**dKiWi** · Jul 26th, 07 06:12 AM

actually an industry expert in another forum has already confirmed at least manga readers (which branch into consumers of anime, light novels and visual novels) are smarter than the average consumer. Yes, its the chuangyi manga forum.

This stems from how the average consumer things that anime and manga is "just cartoons and comic books" and shuns them, while those with higher IQ are able to appreciate them to a deeper degree and start commenting on them. Would any of your normal friends pick up Potemayo? I don't think so. Yet alot of anime bloggers have commented on it positively. And Potemayo is Seinen as well, which means it targets the 18-30 male crowd.

Like I have already stated, its the truth. It isn't like I didn't grow up reading these really thick novels from the likes of Jeffery Archer and Isaac Asimov. I watched more than my far share of dramas and movies. But why do I prefer light novels and manga to normal novels? 'Coz ultimately, they are a superior form of entertainment and not mindless American drivel that our society is consuming, causing their brains to degenerate. The propoganda from the government isn't helping either.

Please don't let societal pressure convince you otherwise. Its the truth. Light Novels like Suzumiya Haruhi are definitely much harder to write than a draggy novel, which allows much more room for character development. Unskilled and boring. Light novels need to move quickly, and can be very complex as well such as Suzumiya Haruhi. My take on the religious and scientific expect of Suzumiya Haruhi (I didn't import this over as I felt it was abit offensive):

http://ckwiz.blogspot.com/2007/06/re...ya-haruhi.html

**Tonkun** · Jul 26th, 07 07:30 AM

@dKiWi:

The truth is, "unskilled and boring" in terms of a novel is highly subjective.

ANYONE who as read and finished the last Harry Potter book would know the amount of planning required to pace the story, and the characters ARE well developed. But I'm not here to advertise, so I'll move on.

Firstly, 'boredom' is often defined by what interests an individual, not the masses. That's why you've got lovers of fiction, science-fiction, non-fiction, heck, even journals.

I agree with what SDF-2 mentioned earlier:

That is the thing I fear. To think we are big and all other fans who adore other hobbies are inferior.

To so quickly slam the folks that refuse to watch anime/read manga would only increase the social stigma to "watching cartoons" or "reading books with cartoon figures on its cover" (yes, I've heard both), which in turn causes them to feel that this 'hobby' belongs to a "niche" audience, and will thus shun the works even more.

Hence you've got comments like tjhan's:

Anime is ****ing.. cartoons please.

Which isn't wrong. Loads of adults don't understand when I say "anime".
So to simplify to layman's terms it becomes "Japanese cartoons".
Yet attaching 'cartoons' to anything is a stigma by itself.

I do admit though, without ChuangYi's manga [so much higher quality than a certain other company], I would've stopped reading anything Chinese, and my mother tongue will go down the drain.

Still, what you're doing would be to place an additional wall between us anime
lovers and the mainstream audience. Take it slow, give them time.

**winsonkoh** · Jul 26th, 07 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by tjhan

LOL!

Dkiwi I hate to burst your bubble but anime viewers are only above F4 and other boyband chasers in terms of intelligence. Almost every other hobby has smarter people in general. In fact, I really hate to admit I like anime. When people ask me in NUS, I always say, "Oh I like watching football and reading science magazines."

Anime is ****ing.. cartoons please.

haha this is true when those guys doesn't watch anime much, but i guess it's not like 10 years ago when anime only appears in tv and people were thinking it as cartoons... orz

oh and here's the one newspaper report of tj:
http://www.riuva.com/?p=670

**Darkonlore** · Jul 26th, 07 01:44 PM

Just 1 or 2 outstanding members of the community will always be labelled as "exceptions" unless we can show something like "more than 50% of the anime community are top university graduates". Public opinions are stereotypical and a generalisation of the community, so we need to have a similar prove instead of events that can be labelled as "exceptions to the rule".

There is always this element of elitism in anime communities I observed. In the pre-BT fansub era, denizens of IRC drew lines between fileservers and leechers. Fansubbers drew lines between Speed Subbers and Quality Subbers. Even now #DB takes hostile approaches to clueless people new to the environment. Cosplayers took sides in the commercialisation and non-commercialisation of cosplay. Cosplay participants flaming what they think are bad cosplayers. Anime fans separating themselves to "otakus" and people who just want their regular "fix" (thus the deflatory terms "narutards" and "bleachtards"). Cold war between commercial companies and the community (Anime fans VS ODEX a.k.a AVPAS). Sad thing is the people involved are mostly people who are considered "leaders of the community".

It was always a sad moment for me when people ask me where is the anime community of SG heading. Haiz...

@sentinel011: u ntu too?

**Shadowsphere** · Jul 26th, 07 01:55 PM

dWiki, firstly I definitely do not think it's right to classify people who don't know nth about anime as stupid or inferior.

But I do believe those who simply have watched the whole Bleach or Naruto or Inuyasha series and claim to be animefans should place a trash can over their heads. Period.

Ok anyway, besides that:

Whether or not anime lovers are intelligent people should not be judged by that article alone. I personally believe that probably out of the whole 100% population of Mensa members (Group of highly intelligent people OR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensa_International) in this world, less than 1% or none are anime otakus.

And that fact alone would put your arguement of intelligence and that silly blogger to the dumps. My parents know nothing about anime, but i'd be insulting their years of experience-knowledge and lives if I claimed my intelligence is higher because I know about anime.

It all comes down to drawing a line between the fantasy world and reality. I'm already semi-obsessed with anime, but I'm definitely NOT smarter than anyone here. I just know when to draw a fine line between realism and fastasy.

dWiki, you've already stepped across the line to mega-obsession... There's still time to turn back a little... If we all can't convince you... think of this.

One day a robber [or whoever bad guy] is gonna point a knife at you. So what ya gonna say? I'll draw out my Zantetsu-ken/Gunblade?
We'll see you in HELL then. dWiki. There's no escaping reality

**402** · Jul 26th, 07 02:54 PM

And suddenly a different case of playing Ostrich.

You just shut yourself out of several good things in life in pertaining to your preferences. I wouldn't need to contest you on that because down the road you might discover something that will change your mind.

I'm not saying I don't watch dramas and movies, but I always hold the view that it is inferior to the anime sub-culture (including manga, light novels and visual novels).

Does it matter if there's just one OPENLY KNOWN person to appreciate anime among that thousands of students in NTU and he happen to be on the cream of the crop???

It don't matter. Unless he is the President or a junior 'Thunderbolt' and he is on an awareness drive.

Whether a person is dumb or clever isn't determined by what he likes.
A person's success isn't determined by his IQ.
And a deluded fascist isn't refered as clever or dumb but rather how fascist and deluded he can be.

Well, this proves the smart, mature ones appreciate anime, and the dumb, narrow-minded ones are stuck to their dramas and movies.

Yes, nice encouragement to everyone you are doing but you put it across like a maniac on a vehicle.

No offence but I really think that the moment you mention weeabooo (watever that means), you are on the same MRT with whoever that "didn't" put a positive label on anime.

**Chino** · Jul 26th, 07 04:00 PM

Actually From my point of view, Anime are not much like the Animes back then already. But most of the People will think of anime as some "Cartoons" back then.

Well For me, that is their thinking. If I like anime, I will say it and doesn't deny them. I would not judge anyone who doesn't like them or if they like them. I respect their opinion and thinking.

Let's respect all of them no matter what they are.

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