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KeLW · 18-08-2006, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_T|||

Somehow, on second thought, I don't trust this post anymore.
1. He knows the names of the shop keepers. For some reason.
2. He believed that the person's name is really Ah Kow. WTF?
3. He's willing to pay $100 for FF7, even when there are lots of it going around cased in "EA Classics" boxes going for less than 1/3 the above quoted price.
4. I've never heard of anyone keying in NETS before seeing the goods.
5. FFIX was a shit game(even though I enjoyed it) and can no way go up to $299 nor $169. Any moron would realise that. In fact, it doesn't even cost $59. It's a freakin' PS1 game. Unless it's some limited edition FF7 game disc, otherwise, PS1 games can't even touch the edge of that price.

Clarify my doubts before you condemn a shop.

You have a point......but actually we do not need to clarify....

WHAT'S CASE FOR???? juz go report to CASE and we see whether its fair or not can already.....

Koyuki · 19-08-2006, 12:26 AM

If the shop owner have the details to cover themselves, they might even be able to counter-sue u for slander coz this definately affects the shop's reputation and sales. Be-careful, u might be threading on dangerous waters.

p7m13 · 19-08-2006, 09:42 AM

Never pay for something till they hand over the goods...... You should've walked out of the store once they started asking for payment first.

Evan · 19-08-2006, 04:53 PM

Just call the police go visit them immediately.

alc2000 · 19-08-2006, 05:22 PM

Mmm most Shop in SLS do not fear CASE
they will CASE CASE lor the most refund

sagy · 20-08-2006, 02:14 AM

nets can be void..
i was a cashier b4.

dikuX · 20-08-2006, 11:33 AM

What kind of fool pays before seeing anything??

†阿修羅† · 20-08-2006, 11:59 AM

lol...that's harsh. but of course you are right.

miwitch · 20-08-2006, 01:31 PM

Oh my.. I just got an email about similar case for a shop at Lucky Plaza. Read this:
Hello Friends,
> >
> > I just want to share with you a terrible experience we had when we
> > traded-in my mother-in law cellphone at the CYBER JIN Pte Ltd (Lucky
> > Plaza #B1-81,near 7-eleven) this weekend.
> >
> > The story goes like this; my Mom wanted to trade-in her old cellphone
to
> > buy a brand new N70. We accompanied her to the Lucky Plaza hoping we
> > could get a good bargain. Then we found this store that agreed to buy
my
> > Mom's cellphone for $220 and would charge us only $550 (net) for an N70
> > under the condition that we do both transactions (buy and sell) with
> > them. So far, this store offers us the best bargain compared to other
> > stores from the rest of the building.
> >
> > We agreed to their transaction proposal as we were then in a bit of a
> > hurry (she was only a tourist and would stay in Singapore for only
> > 4-days). However, when we were about to pay, the salesman suddenly told
> > us "Why do you want an N70? This is a very bad phone. In fact this is
> > one of the most problematic phones of Nokia." He immediately caught our
> > attention and in fact gained our trust (imagine a salesman telling you
> > that a product you are about to buy from him is not worth the money you
> > are paying it for). He then proceeded to make his presentation about
why
> > we should not buy an N70 and even said "If you really want it I can
sell
> > it to you but please know that we've heard a lot of complains about
it".
> > Afterwards, he brought out an N6280, which he said was by far a better
> > phone than the N70 at almost the same price (he even gave another short
> > presentation of its advantages). Of course, since he already gained our
> > trust, we found his presentation very convincing. We bargained for the
> > phone and he said "I can give it to you at just $555 (net)".
> >
> > After being impressed by a convincing presentation, my Mom agreed to
> > trade-in her old cellphone for $220, and buys the brand new N6280 for
> > $555(This means that she just would have to shell out another $335). We
> > told the salesman that we would pay by Nets and we gave him our card.
> > While paying, he tried to sell to us a 64Mb mini-SD Card for $20. We
> > said we did not want it (as my mother wouldn't use it anyway). We
> > proceeded with the transaction, got our phone and asked for the
receipt.
> > The salesman said that the Nets certificate would be our receipt.
Should
> > we encounter any problem, we just look for him and he would be happy to
> > assist us. Since we are in a hurry, we took our phone and nets
> > certificate and left. While we were leaving, he handed us the 64Mb
> > mini-SD Card and said "Take this as a free gift from me".
> >
> > After a long day of sight seeing and a little shopping, we finally got
> > home and my mom finally had her first chance to test her new cellphone.
> > To her surprise, the supposedly brand-new cellphone had contact numbers
> > (some even had photo-contacts) of some people in its phone memory
> > (meaning it was used and wasn't brand new!). We then checked the
phone's
> > serial number (IMEI#) and again to our dismay, we found out that the
> > phone's IMEI# doesn't match the IMEI# listed in the box. We did a
> > research to see what other things the salesman tricked us into
believing
> > and we found out that the 64Mb SD Card that he was trying to sell us
for
> > $20 was in fact part of the phone's original package (some other things
> > listed as part of the original package as seen from brochures were also
> > missing). Not just that, we checked the Nets certificate, and learned
> > that he charged $355 instead of just $335 (so sneaky, we didn't even
> > notice!). Worst of all, we found that the price of the N6280 from
> > neighboring stores is just $450(net) while he sold it to us for a total
> > of $575! (Including the extra $20 we did not notice that he charged us
> > through Nets).
> >
> > Imagine how disappointed my Mom would be after knowing that she bought
a
> > cellphone that is not just $100+ overpriced but is also isn't brand new
> > as we were made to believe (plus the fact that some of the components
> > from the original package were removed and the that salesman charged
> > more than what we had agreed).
> >
> > The next day, we went back to the store to complain and get a refund.
> > The salesman said that he couldn't give us a refund. What he can do is
> > to buy the cellphone we bought from him a day ago for $575, and give us
> > ONLY $300 (does he think we're that stupid!!!)... We did not agree and
> > insisted a REFUND; during our discussion one of his colleagues shouted,
> > "Give them a new box so that they would leave!!!" (He's so rude!) I
> > don't know how stupid these people think we are if all we came for was
> > to get a new box.... I told them that if they wouldn't refund our
money,
> > we would report this matter to the police. They just gave an insulting
> > grim and said "Go ahead, we'll see you in court" and then one of them
> > lit a cigarette (inside the shop), and smoked in front of us and along
> > the hallways of the mall (while wearing that insulting smile) as if
> > telling us that he is not scared of the police. In fact, he can smoke
in
> > a "No Smoking Zone".
> >
> > While we were leaving (to complain to the police) we came across an
> > Indian couple who owns souvenir shop nearby and told us that this (our
> > incident) happens almost every week. The Indian lady said that this
> > store always gets complains from tourists but are always able to get
> > away with it because tourists usually would just go away. She also said
> > that this store avoids (if they can) giving receipts to unsuspecting
> > customers to cover their fraudulent transactions. She suggested that if
> > we can, we should complain these people to the authorities because they
> > make Singapore look bad. We went to the security department of Lucky
> > Plaza and the security people helped us contact the police. The Lucky
> > Plaza security people also admitted that this always happens but it's
> > just not their jurisdiction so they really cannot do anything about
> > these incidents other than making a report to the police. The security
> > people also advised that it is illegal for a store not to issue a
proper
> > receipt detailing all transactions to a customer. This means that the
> > Nets certificate that we have (although having the store name and
> > address) is not a valid receipt after all.
> >
> > The police came, talked to us and told us to wait for them at the
> > security counter of the mall while they went to the store and talked to
> > these people. We told the police that we want a refund because we were
> > cheated and do not trust these people or any of their products anymore.
> > We also reported that the store did not issue a proper receipt. The
> > police went to the store, talked to the manager and came back to tell
us
> > that the manager's suggestion was to give us a new N6280 (one that
> > matches the IMEI of box and the unit!!!) so that all of these would be
> > settled. We told the police that we want a refund and we don't want to
> > do any business with them. Then, the Police suggested that we file our
> > complaints to CASE, because they are not the right person for these
> > kinds of situations.
> >
> > As of now, we are gathering all evidence we can that could help when we
> > file our complaint to CASE. We are hoping that the Nets certificate
that
> > we have will suffice as one of our evidences. We are no longer
> > interested of the refund, what we want now is to teach these crooks a
> > lesson so that they will stop cheating other people.
> >
> > Let this email be a warning to you and your friends. Always check a
> > product very well (research if possible) before buying and always make
> > sure you get a 'detailed receipt' of all your transactions.
> >
> > Never fall prey on these predators waiting for unsuspecting customers.

402 · 20-08-2006, 01:56 PM

Lucky Plaza is FAMOUS for that.

Touts and tourist traps.

jjkeeper · 21-08-2006, 07:54 PM

yes.. including a $1.80 green tea 500ml .. >.>" I've had experience working part time there.. it is a con money place..

syrianwind · 21-08-2006, 08:49 PM

omg.. after seeing all these scams i'm really scared now.. lucky i havent gotten into any of these.

i feel really bad for all the victims. EVIL shopkeepers.

w1rbe1w1nd · 21-08-2006, 10:57 PM

Umm...

Miwitch, thanks for sharing that.

When I'm desperate, I can't think properly. It was only when he brought FF Anthology in that I realised it was a trick. Besides, I was alone, so no one could look out for me then.

Like I said, I checked out a different shop at SLS. FF 9 had the price label stating $58.60, so the price wasn't made up by me. But after checking out SeowChoon.com, supposedly their supplier, I have to agree, $59 doesn't cut it, not when SeowChoon sells it at $39. Wish I had checked SeowChoon before checking SLS...

What I worry about is that when they don't fear CASE, they also don't fear rejecting their arguments and/or lying their way out of the situation. But all I want is a refund of my $169. My friend was even telling me to go to Small Claims Tribunal. I want my $169 back, but would it go so far as to bring this matter to court? Maybe I will...

And whether you'd believe me or not, well...if the SLS regulars happen to be there again, can I ask for their help, to check out the price of FFT and FF7? Their availability first, then their prices. I couldn't find any of the shops selling FFT and FF7 at the date of 17/08/2006.

T_T||| · 21-08-2006, 11:40 PM

FFT I don't know. But I see FF7 and FF8 "EA Classics" boxes flooding Challenger.

Court:
1. You have witness?
2. Proof?

So the first thing you do is find CASE. FF9 selling at $59? Kiss my ass. If what you're saying is truw, that shop can be incinerated.

DarkXIII · 22-08-2006, 12:09 AM

lol yea.. ff7 is flooding the well know chops at 29.90 or 39.90 not sure which price lol.

19-08-2006, 12:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
Koyuki Post-Crazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boon Lay Posts: 3,978 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	If the shop owner have the details to cover themselves, they might even be able to counter-sue u for slander coz this definately affects the shop's reputation and sales. Be-careful, u might be threading on dangerous waters. __________________ ~I HATE EVERYONE~

19-08-2006, 05:22 PM	#20 (permalink)
alc2000 Post-Crazy Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: in SG chan Posts: 1,922 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	Mmm most Shop in SLS do not fear CASE they will CASE CASE lor the most refund __________________ Vocaloid 2 初音ミク

20-08-2006, 11:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
†阿修羅† Post-Crazy Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ひきこもり Posts: 3,939 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	lol...that's harsh. but of course you are right. __________________ ♪｡☆★♪｡☆★♪｡☆頑張ります。☆★♪｡☆★♪｡☆*

20-08-2006, 01:31 PM	#24 (permalink)
miwitch Post-Crazy Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Punggol Posts: 3,585 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	Oh my.. I just got an email about similar case for a shop at Lucky Plaza. Read this: Hello Friends, > > > > I just want to share with you a terrible experience we had when we > > traded-in my mother-in law cellphone at the CYBER JIN Pte Ltd (Lucky > > Plaza #B1-81,near 7-eleven) this weekend. > > > > The story goes like this; my Mom wanted to trade-in her old cellphone to > > buy a brand new N70. We accompanied her to the Lucky Plaza hoping we > > could get a good bargain. Then we found this store that agreed to buy my > > Mom's cellphone for $220 and would charge us only $550 (net) for an N70 > > under the condition that we do both transactions (buy and sell) with > > them. So far, this store offers us the best bargain compared to other > > stores from the rest of the building. > > > > We agreed to their transaction proposal as we were then in a bit of a > > hurry (she was only a tourist and would stay in Singapore for only > > 4-days). However, when we were about to pay, the salesman suddenly told > > us "Why do you want an N70? This is a very bad phone. In fact this is > > one of the most problematic phones of Nokia." He immediately caught our > > attention and in fact gained our trust (imagine a salesman telling you > > that a product you are about to buy from him is not worth the money you > > are paying it for). He then proceeded to make his presentation about why > > we should not buy an N70 and even said "If you really want it I can sell > > it to you but please know that we've heard a lot of complains about it". > > Afterwards, he brought out an N6280, which he said was by far a better > > phone than the N70 at almost the same price (he even gave another short > > presentation of its advantages). Of course, since he already gained our > > trust, we found his presentation very convincing. We bargained for the > > phone and he said "I can give it to you at just $555 (net)". > > > > After being impressed by a convincing presentation, my Mom agreed to > > trade-in her old cellphone for $220, and buys the brand new N6280 for > > $555(This means that she just would have to shell out another $335). We > > told the salesman that we would pay by Nets and we gave him our card. > > While paying, he tried to sell to us a 64Mb mini-SD Card for $20. We > > said we did not want it (as my mother wouldn't use it anyway). We > > proceeded with the transaction, got our phone and asked for the receipt. > > The salesman said that the Nets certificate would be our receipt. Should > > we encounter any problem, we just look for him and he would be happy to > > assist us. Since we are in a hurry, we took our phone and nets > > certificate and left. While we were leaving, he handed us the 64Mb > > mini-SD Card and said "Take this as a free gift from me". > > > > After a long day of sight seeing and a little shopping, we finally got > > home and my mom finally had her first chance to test her new cellphone. > > To her surprise, the supposedly brand-new cellphone had contact numbers > > (some even had photo-contacts) of some people in its phone memory > > (meaning it was used and wasn't brand new!). We then checked the phone's > > serial number (IMEI#) and again to our dismay, we found out that the > > phone's IMEI# doesn't match the IMEI# listed in the box. We did a > > research to see what other things the salesman tricked us into believing > > and we found out that the 64Mb SD Card that he was trying to sell us for > > $20 was in fact part of the phone's original package (some other things > > listed as part of the original package as seen from brochures were also > > missing). Not just that, we checked the Nets certificate, and learned > > that he charged $355 instead of just $335 (so sneaky, we didn't even > > notice!). Worst of all, we found that the price of the N6280 from > > neighboring stores is just $450(net) while he sold it to us for a total > > of $575! (Including the extra $20 we did not notice that he charged us > > through Nets). > > > > Imagine how disappointed my Mom would be after knowing that she bought a > > cellphone that is not just $100+ overpriced but is also isn't brand new > > as we were made to believe (plus the fact that some of the components > > from the original package were removed and the that salesman charged > > more than what we had agreed). > > > > The next day, we went back to the store to complain and get a refund. > > The salesman said that he couldn't give us a refund. What he can do is > > to buy the cellphone we bought from him a day ago for $575, and give us > > ONLY $300 (does he think we're that stupid!!!)... We did not agree and > > insisted a REFUND; during our discussion one of his colleagues shouted, > > "Give them a new box so that they would leave!!!" (He's so rude!) I > > don't know how stupid these people think we are if all we came for was > > to get a new box.... I told them that if they wouldn't refund our money, > > we would report this matter to the police. They just gave an insulting > > grim and said "Go ahead, we'll see you in court" and then one of them > > lit a cigarette (inside the shop), and smoked in front of us and along > > the hallways of the mall (while wearing that insulting smile) as if > > telling us that he is not scared of the police. In fact, he can smoke in > > a "No Smoking Zone". > > > > While we were leaving (to complain to the police) we came across an > > Indian couple who owns souvenir shop nearby and told us that this (our > > incident) happens almost every week. The Indian lady said that this > > store always gets complains from tourists but are always able to get > > away with it because tourists usually would just go away. She also said > > that this store avoids (if they can) giving receipts to unsuspecting > > customers to cover their fraudulent transactions. She suggested that if > > we can, we should complain these people to the authorities because they > > make Singapore look bad. We went to the security department of Lucky > > Plaza and the security people helped us contact the police. The Lucky > > Plaza security people also admitted that this always happens but it's > > just not their jurisdiction so they really cannot do anything about > > these incidents other than making a report to the police. The security > > people also advised that it is illegal for a store not to issue a proper > > receipt detailing all transactions to a customer. This means that the > > Nets certificate that we have (although having the store name and > > address) is not a valid receipt after all. > > > > The police came, talked to us and told us to wait for them at the > > security counter of the mall while they went to the store and talked to > > these people. We told the police that we want a refund because we were > > cheated and do not trust these people or any of their products anymore. > > We also reported that the store did not issue a proper receipt. The > > police went to the store, talked to the manager and came back to tell us > > that the manager's suggestion was to give us a new N6280 (one that > > matches the IMEI of box and the unit!!!) so that all of these would be > > settled. We told the police that we want a refund and we don't want to > > do any business with them. Then, the Police suggested that we file our > > complaints to CASE, because they are not the right person for these > > kinds of situations. > > > > As of now, we are gathering all evidence we can that could help when we > > file our complaint to CASE. We are hoping that the Nets certificate that > > we have will suffice as one of our evidences. We are no longer > > interested of the refund, what we want now is to teach these crooks a > > lesson so that they will stop cheating other people. > > > > Let this email be a warning to you and your friends. Always check a > > product very well (research if possible) before buying and always make > > sure you get a 'detailed receipt' of all your transactions. > > > > Never fall prey on these predators waiting for unsuspecting customers. __________________ {+} miwitch.com {+} UsagiWorks Instocks {+} miwitch & Infanta {+} miwitch & R.Series {+} {+} NUWorks Yahoo Group {+} ilove Gallery {+}

21-08-2006, 10:57 PM	#28 (permalink)
w1rbe1w1nd Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: With the Crystal Principle Posts: 7,641 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	Umm... Miwitch, thanks for sharing that. When I'm desperate, I can't think properly. It was only when he brought FF Anthology in that I realised it was a trick. Besides, I was alone, so no one could look out for me then. Like I said, I checked out a different shop at SLS. FF 9 had the price label stating $58.60, so the price wasn't made up by me. But after checking out SeowChoon.com, supposedly their supplier, I have to agree, $59 doesn't cut it, not when SeowChoon sells it at $39. Wish I had checked SeowChoon before checking SLS... What I worry about is that when they don't fear CASE, they also don't fear rejecting their arguments and/or lying their way out of the situation. But all I want is a refund of my $169. My friend was even telling me to go to Small Claims Tribunal. I want my $169 back, but would it go so far as to bring this matter to court? Maybe I will... And whether you'd believe me or not, well...if the SLS regulars happen to be there again, can I ask for their help, to check out the price of FFT and FF7? Their availability first, then their prices. I couldn't find any of the shops selling FFT and FF7 at the date of 17/08/2006. __________________

19-08-2006, 09:42 AM	#18 (permalink)
p7m13 Post-Crazy Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,875 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	Never pay for something till they hand over the goods...... You should've walked out of the store once they started asking for payment first.

19-08-2006, 04:53 PM	#19 (permalink)
Evan 我們的秘密基地 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 26,561 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	Just call the police go visit them immediately.

20-08-2006, 02:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
sagy Post-Crazy Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,340 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	nets can be void.. i was a cashier b4.

20-08-2006, 11:33 AM	#22 (permalink)
dikuX Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Home Posts: 112 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	What kind of fool pays before seeing anything??

20-08-2006, 01:56 PM	#25 (permalink)
402 _______________ Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 33,000 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	Lucky Plaza is FAMOUS for that. Touts and tourist traps.

21-08-2006, 07:54 PM	#26 (permalink)
jjkeeper Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Boon Lay Posts: 340 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	yes.. including a $1.80 green tea 500ml .. >.>" I've had experience working part time there.. it is a con money place..

21-08-2006, 08:49 PM	#27 (permalink)
syrianwind Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: boredom. Posts: 427 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	omg.. after seeing all these scams i'm really scared now.. lucky i havent gotten into any of these. i feel really bad for all the victims. EVIL shopkeepers.

21-08-2006, 11:40 PM	#29 (permalink)
T_T\|\|\| Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SGMOE教 Posts: 7,605 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	FFT I don't know. But I see FF7 and FF8 "EA Classics" boxes flooding Challenger. Court: 1. You have witness? 2. Proof? So the first thing you do is find CASE. FF9 selling at $59? Kiss my ass. If what you're saying is truw, that shop can be incinerated.

22-08-2006, 12:09 AM	#30 (permalink)
DarkXIII Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Earth... sadly Posts: 5,383 Trade rep: 0 (0%)	lol yea.. ff7 is flooding the well know chops at 29.90 or 39.90 not sure which price lol.

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