ref

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vid...2669-animeed01

watch this recent video. seems like this feels something 2 years ago locally here.


watch the part where she explains how anime studios earn their moneh and rice for their rice bowls.

but well, in the end, I dunnoe, and I dun really bother since I dont watch anime much haha.. just puting up some random relevant topic in this dead board

BlackAdder

It's not dead, it's just in proxy.

And besides, I think the board should be renamed to match discussions on intellectual property rights and filesharing within the new media and information technology.

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I can't watch the video since I'm at uni, so I'll watch later.

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spitxfire

Spoken like the truth. Problem is many anime viewers are teens who don't have the moolahs. They must realize they are doing wrong if they only keep leeching and don't give back. This is where the anime creators should put effort in.
I bet that once these teens grow into sensible adults with income, the anime companies will reap the benefits.
As for the adult leechers in their 30 somethings, I'd have to say shame on them if they only leech and don't support the industry via DVDs or merchandise.
I'd also say shame on those who fleece money from 9 year olds.

Silverwolf X

My gripe with odex is more on the fact they are buying license and not doing anything decent with them.

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Ex14

Agreed. HOPEFULLY they don't do a lousy job like in the past. Btw are they dead? Odex i mean.

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ToyFanatik

Nope. They are still alive and kicking, this time trying to sell figures.
Odex is selling anime figures in Singapore!
http://forums.sgclub.com/singapore/n_216793.html

They have been keeping a low profile in the anime scene probably in hopes that people will forget the atrocities and crimes they committed. But they are definitely not dead.

It'd be difficult for Odex to actually truly die when they are masquerading under different names (I'd like to find out what they are) in other parts of South East Asia peddling their low quality anime on TV channels and Peter Go has this Apple Juice company in China, that can pump funds for Odex.

Miavi

Fix'd.

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Reinhard von Lohengramm

A major reason I don't buy is because most anime simply isn't worth the price. If I had to pay to laugh at Code Geass and Kampfer, I wouldn't bother at all.

Anime is my hobby because it is free. But I did buy the DVDs for Cowboy Bebop and The Big O. Absolute masterpieces in my opinion.

Teokeez

Code Geass was good, you know...

Well, I think the main issue here is that in Japan, you can sell your used copies to shops like Tsutaya, or rent the DVDs before you decide to make the purchase. However, there aren't such options available here in Singapore. We don't have any means to see if a show is any good before deciding to make the purchase.

Yet, that doesn't justify freeloading off episodes. It's just stupid how the animation studios MUST show their shows in full HD when they jolly well know how people are leeching off their broadcasts.

And because they refuse to admit to their fail, they have to throw in nudity and moe just to make their shit sell.

Reinhard von Lohengramm

I agree with your post. Except for Code Geass being good. It was entertaining, yes, but only if you laughed at it and not with it.

This doesn't justify piracy, but I should put forth that buying anything but R2 DVDs doesn't have your money go any further than the distributor. You buying the local DVDs sold here will not help the starving animators one bit. So all the 'support the industry' propaganda is mostly bullshit.

Although in my opinion if they're not going to try and put out anything half decent they deserve to starve.

FukitsuNaDouki

Resident ex-anime fan-cum-old hag here.

I'm not going to put much of a fight, but I'm going to allow my 2 cents' worth here. So here me out.

So what? The end-deal is that many of the demographics here that watches anime are in their teens to postgraduates. I have not seen any adult anime fans that drool over magical girls IRL, so unfortunately, the anime fanbase here, insofar the majority, can not have enough disposable income to buy the DVDs. Sans the hardworking and/or hardcore anime fans who'd rather buy the Blu-Ray series. (Because 1080p is awesome, and they bothered to save up instead.)

I take this situation as similar to the Warhammer 40,000 world.

In W40K, a particular faction – the Imperial Guards – have a very messy kind of situation. Not all regiments have fair and just generals/commissars, not all regiments are committed or fanatical about their work. Not all gets a fair treatment: you got boom headshot, too bad. NEXT!

Same thing here. Life sucks. I say, "BIG DEAL! MOVE ON!" I know that there are people actively seeking for licensed anime series, in which I have nothing but pure respect, for they are proactive in their anime fandom. This is how anime subculture should thrive, even if it means a collective purchasing of anime shows, instead of "Hey, you got download that Seitokai no Otoshimono show last night?"

(That was a bit ironic, for both Seitokai no Ichizon and Sora no Otoshimono do not have 1.) good buying value [for the same reasons as buying Crank 2: High Velocity], and 2.) they have no English distributors yet. (Hey, Crunchyroll is pending an ongoing global release, someday it will get its wishes fulfilled. In the meantime MOVE ON!)

In short, you wanna watch anime? Watch the ****ing video first and follow its advice.

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Reinhard von Lohengramm

How did I post twice?

Reinhard von Lohengramm

I should also say that the directors and executives get to suck up all the money from sales while the animators are treated like and paid shit. That's why a lot of them quit within a year to work on more profitable jobs like video games.

Animators should have stuck up for themselves when they could. Now the whole industry is dying because of this.

Also, it's simply a new trend to blame poor profits on piracy. There's tons of video game piracy but they're doing well enough for themselves. Besides, most people wouldn't bother with anime if they had to pay for it.

BlackAdder

Can an Animators Strike really work ? This isn't the same as a Writers strike or an Actors Strike.

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radioactive28

It works if all of them goes on strike, not when there are people who are so hard up that they will gladly take on your work if you decide to abandon your post.

Unions in Japan don't work this way.

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