Bootleg at EOY

[Elydis]

Originally Posted by -Tohru-

yea it wrong. BUT it still the buyer fault. the buyer didnt check. if ur a true collector u would noe it would be a bootleg.

Takes 2 to do a duet.

Like i said, bring it up to pitb themselves. Just be tact and let them know.

[toasty..]

You know, none of you actually thought of the possibility that the seller of the bootleg figure is also unaware of giving TS a bootleg and not the original. The bootleg figure might also have a mistake in stock replenishing or otherwise, replacements for the original stock.

It's funny that someone also mentioned that EOY was held at Suntec but the matter is, TS is stupid if he/she did report to this to CASE when he was not observant enough and honestly, you would have checked the figure on the spot instead of returning home and whining about it.

Ego? I'm surprised someone mentioned ego.

[Elydis]

Originally Posted by toasty..

You know, none of you actually thought of the possibility that the seller of the bootleg figure is also unaware of giving TS a bootleg and not the original. The bootleg figure might also have a mistake in stock replenishing or otherwise, replacements for the original stock.

It's funny that someone also mentioned that EOY was held at Suntec but the matter is, TS is stupid if he/she did report to this to CASE when he was not observant enough and honestly, you would have checked the figure on the spot instead of returning home and whining about it.

Ego? I'm surprised someone mentioned ego.

L2read please. I did post it up.

[toasty..]

Originally Posted by Elydis

L2read please. I did post it up.

Which point are you reffering to? The first paragraph was targeted at the point of sale where the person in charge selling the items, or put it simply, cashier, did not take the right product.

[XkosmoX]

1a. TS fault for not checking
1b. PITB fault for not knowing/selling knowingly
1c. everyone's fault for scolding only 1a or 1b but not both
1d. lets all have supper and have a happy new year.

[Blurmage]

Originally Posted by -Tohru-

I LOLED HARD.
i actually can tell by 1 look tat the figurines in PITD are bootlegs.
the box it self look damn fake and the figurine colour is different from the print on the box[if iam not wrong]. LOLS.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/...518bd663_o.jpg
Tell me which one of this is bootleg dear expert figurine collector please. I need your expert advice so I can tell the rest of my figurines collector who are noob.

Originally Posted by Negimized

its not like other countries doesn't sell bootlegs anyway >_>

And just to confirm. I am not saying the shop is removed of any blame. I just feel that its wrong to suddenly "defame" the shop by somehow saying that the way they do business is wrong. I just felt that they should be given at least a chance to know on this mistake rather than the customer, complaining about the way they are doing the business. Well, both sides doesn't know each other so.. TS, would you kindly close the thread now? I am sure the shop will know about this and take the matter into their hands.

And nope I not closing this thread, I just want to see more of the replies.

Originally Posted by toasty..

You know, none of you actually thought of the possibility that the seller of the bootleg figure is also unaware of giving TS a bootleg and not the original. The bootleg figure might also have a mistake in stock replenishing or otherwise, replacements for the original stock.

It's funny that someone also mentioned that EOY was held at Suntec but the matter is, TS is stupid if he/she did report to this to CASE when he was not observant enough and honestly, you would have checked the figure on the spot instead of returning home and whining about it.

Ego? I'm surprised someone mentioned ego.

He is just stating one example, I got an E8 for my English and I can understand.

If seller is unaware, he/she should read this and learn from it. And from your reply it seems you support shops selling bootleg?

[impz]

Originally Posted by toasty..

You know, none of you actually thought of the possibility that the seller of the bootleg figure is also unaware of giving TS a bootleg and not the original. The bootleg figure might also have a mistake in stock replenishing or otherwise, replacements for the original stock.

It's funny that someone also mentioned that EOY was held at Suntec but the matter is, TS is stupid if he/she did report to this to CASE when he was not observant enough and honestly, you would have checked the figure on the spot instead of returning home and whining about it.

Ego? I'm surprised someone mentioned ego.

I am not denying that possibility, but isn't it the responsibility of the shop to make sure that what it is selling/distributing is actually real? I am not saying that the TS is devoid of all responsibility. As a buyer, he could have been more informed about the situation, and as many have said in the thread, take this as a painful lesson to know that there are counterfeit stuff.

However, pledging ignorance for the side of the distributor does not shed the blame off him. Let me give a scenario. McDonalds accidentally sold some pork on the menu when it is supposed to be Halal. Obviously, McDonalds did not know about this, but it still happened. Muslims are offended because they ate the meat unknowingly and only realized when they consumed the food.. Does that mean that McDonalds, since they are ignorant of the fact that they do not know about it, means that they can be removed from blame? NO WAY. If you would say anything disagreeing about this point of view, I would love to see if it makes sense. I am probably lacking in the ability to understand the logic that goes against the above scenario. I do not deny that the example is not exactly the scenario that the TS has mentioned, but it is similar enough as an analogy.

Why not ego? Is there any need to insult someone? Or is insulting someone supposed to be anything else but an attempt to make yourself look superior? I would love to hear from anyone about this.

[double]

Thankfully, it isn't Sader.

[Negimized]

Originally Posted by Blurmage

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/...518bd663_o.jpg
Tell me which one of this is bootleg dear expert figurine collector please. I need your expert advice so I can tell the rest of my figurines collector who are noob.



And nope I not closing this thread, I just want to see more of the replies.



He is just stating one example, I got an E8 for my English and I can understand.

If seller is unaware, he/she should read this and learn from it. And from your reply it seems you support shops selling bootleg?

You making a bad name of the shop is enough. If this is some kinda ****ing cheap thrill for you about the replies you see here, get laid.
And you are clearly complaining about your tiny mistake on the shop and yourself. Sure, they might have bootlegs item so what?
I still buy them. And I clearly never blame them whereas you do.

You might say I am covering up for the shop. Yeah, feel free. Because I know what I am saying.
I am not saying this coz I know the shop owner or what shit, I am saying out of own will and because of you being a little kid complaining you had gotten something that you want but too bad its a bootleg.

[-Tohru-]

the one on the right . RAWRs.
if i am wrong then sad lo.
the pic quality is crap.

[toasty..]

Originally Posted by Blurmage

He is just stating one example, I got an E8 for my English and I can understand.

If seller is unaware, he/she should read this and learn from it. And from your reply it seems you support shops selling bootleg?

I'm pretty much neturalizing my aforementioned post, as in taking views from both sides. So basically, both sides are wrong.

POS seller/cashier should check whether he is selling the legit products, and you should also check your products for any disrepancies. So yeah, be more catious.

And I don't support bootleg shops, it's happens that naturally almost every shop sells something that is pirated.

[Knife]

Originally Posted by Blurmage

By all means, continue to support bootleg, your free anime, psp game whatever I don't care. It's only $30 that's ripped off from me.

Okay~
So why bother to make such a big fuss?

[Elydis]

Originally Posted by Elydis

Actually the stores do have a responsibility. The miku nendroid is produced by Good Smiles and i find it hard to believe that pitb had no idea they were dealing with a party other then Good Smiles.

If they are not aware, then it would be good to let pitb know. Even if you did report to CASE, they will ignore you.

There must first be external pressure on CASE itself before they will pursue matters like this. There is no justice, only incentives. And right now i dont see any incentive for CASE to pursue the matter really.

Unless companies like Good Smiles actually came down and request SG to take action. Which is a waste of resource.

Pardon me if i was not clear enough.

[ExgaladoEX]

Originally Posted by toasty..

I'm pretty much neturalizing my aforementioned post, as in taking views from both sides. So basically, both sides are wrong.

POS seller/cashier should check whether he is selling the legit products, and you should also check your products for any disrepancies. So yeah, be more catious.

And I don't support bootleg shops, it's happens that naturally almost every shop sells something that is pirated.

Agreed ... Chances are , when PITB got these stuff , he prolly did'nt even know themselves . I mean , just becos i opened a shop selling this stuff does'nt really mean i love it >.> Heck , i'd open a jewellery shop to earn huge moolah and not own a single piece for nuts >.>

Trust me , PiTB's costume still rocks .

[impz]

Originally Posted by Knife

Okay~
So why bother to make such a big fuss?

It's the principle of it all. A shop should NEVER sell counterfeit stuff, particularly in a prestigous convention in AFA. If you buy it from some shady shop in Dexter Road, you are just asking to be steamrolled and it's an act of trying to bang yourself on the wall to see if the wall is strong enough for your head. However, the level of responsibility to present an authentic piece of merchandise in a legitimate anime convention that prides and aims to be the top convention in Singapore should be held higher. I am flabbergasted how people are condoning counterfeit, fake merchandise being sold by a distributor in a major convention as "a small matter." It's not, and it should be an important issue.